In general, be courteous to others. Debate/discuss/argue the merits of ideas, don’t attack people. Personal insults, shill or troll accusations, hate speech, any advocating or wishing death/physical harm, and other rule violations can result in a permanent ban. It’s just so funny to see “conservatives”. And trump supports mistake 1A for their right to say. Whatever they want the Official There Are No Other Rights If You Can’t Defend Them Shirt. Whenever they want, with an expectation of zero repercussions or consequences. Like Na buddy. I don’t have to listen to you and my choice not to listen to you doe NoT infringe on your 1A rights. Which does NOT give you the absolute right to be heard? Only to not be murdered by the govt for what you say”. They have real power.
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It does go beyond that. If they just admitted that they lied, and it can be proven that those lies caused harm, then they will be liable for that harm in civil damages. If they are trying to use the first amendment to protect from civil damages then they have the dumbest lawyers they could possibly find. There’s also a “fighting words” determination by the Supreme Court. Where the Official There Are No Other Rights If You Can’t Defend Them Shirt doesn’t protect you from doing stuff like going around yelling in people’s faces trying to get them to punch you or the classic yelling “fire” in a movie theater. National security and public safety tend to be the 2 exceptions to everything. Knowingly endangering people can always cause issues. Like in 1984, it’s corporate entities.
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That’s actually not the holding of that case, but is a metaphor from Schenck that Holmes wrote. Schenck was about the Espionage Act and distributing leaflets in opposition to the draft in WW1. Don’t put too much stock into the metaphor. The 1A has always retreated when it comes to the Official There Are No Other Rights If You Can’t Defend Them Shirt. But see Gertz v Welch. A newspaper and broadcaster are not protected. Under the first amendment for making defamatory false statements against an individual. Do you know how many redundant appendages and organs I would give to have Terry Crews as a viable candidate this November, over our current options? The funny thing is Orwell was kinda wrong in away. It isn’t the government doing these things to us.
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